Using Qi Men Dun Jia For Wealth, Investments & The Stock Market

Posted On Last updated Oct 14, 2020 | Published on Oct 13, 2020

To get the question out of the way: Yes, Chinese metaphysics can be applied when it comes to investment decisions. This is nothing new and you’ve probably come across it at some point. A lot of my clients and friends have asked me if I use what I know for my investment decisions, and the answer is “yes”. Why not?

I’ve had quite an interesting journey when it comes to investments. I’m definitely not a trader because I’m not cut out for it. I’m more long-term investor who holds my investments for quite some time. I’ve analyzed my own Zi Wei Dou Shu chart which mentioned that starting from 2020, I will have a better time with investments. True enough, I did. It’s the result of having more time to read up about the world after leaving my corporate job, and also due to having Qi Men Dun Jia on my side to guide some of my decisions. Things basically fell into place and that’s what moving into new major phases do.

I’ve been wanting to write about this topic for the longest time because the topic on how to acquire wealth is something almost everyone exposed to Chinese metaphysics wants to explore. However, this topic is also one where I hesitated for the longest because it opens up a can of worms. There are going to be a lot of people, tempted by greed, who will want to use Chinese metaphysics to earn a quick buck and they are most likely your Category 4 toxic people who don’t know what hard work means. I basically didn’t want to invite trouble for myself.

I certainly do not want to be seen as one of those practitioners who keep touting Chinese metaphysics as a tool to get rich, because trust me, a lot of people end up wasting their life and time on this field instead of focusing on what they’re meant to do. Trust me when I say this, but Chinese metaphysics makes people lose money more than it helps to grow it. So please, don’t be naive.

I decided to touch on this topic a bit as a lot of my clients do approach me for very valid investment decisions. They aren’t motivated by greed and it’s more for them to plan for their retirement. I’m sure we can all relate to that.

Some Important Issues To Get Out Of The Way

This post is not going to be about how you can apply Chinese metaphysics to make a quick buck because I intend to do that solely for myself. It’s to tell you that it’s possible and also to be aware of some of the pitfalls. I’m not going to deny that being proficient in Chinese metaphysics does help a lot in financial decisions, but many people fall to the dark side and get greedy. One’s judgement is clouded the moment greed sets in, and most people often lose their wealth as a result.

This post will probably make some people wish to come for a reading or Qi Men Dun Jia forecast, but allow me to make a few things clear first. If you have a genuine investment decision to make, I’m more than happy to help you assess if it is a good one and I have done this many times for my clients.

Please do not turn the consultation into some game where I do stock picks for you, entertain your speculation, or hope you find your sure-win pot of gold. My T&Cs does clearly state that I reserve the right to stop the Q&A at any point and that I get to decide the scope of what can be asked and these rules are there for good reason. Approach this with the right intent, and I will help. If not, please stay away. And for the love of all things good in this world, when I ask you to read something, please read it. It’s not because I want to put myself on a pedestal. I can tell when someone’s blinded by metaphysics, so reading up is really for your own good.

I’ve mentioned this notion many times in my blog, which is that not everyone is going to end up benefiting from Chinese metaphysics. Here are a few possible scenarios, some of which I’ve experienced it personally:

  • You are absolutely intrigued with Chinese metaphysics and you believe you have some gift in it. You spend some time studying how it can be applied in investments, but your proficiency and experience is still lacking.
  • You managed to decipher the chart accurately, but greed gets the better of you and you ended up not making the right choice. Perhaps you jumped into an opportunistic investment and failed to get out quick enough. To use an easy example, the pandemic has driven up a lot of healthcare stocks, but many people ended up losing money because they assumed the investment will keep going higher. Just because the chart shows a positive sign doesn’t mean you can’t mess it up.
  • Sometimes, it’s simply not having enough capital or cash flow to make one feel safe about the investment so no action was taken and you have to miss a good opportunity.

Try to see it from this perspective: A hundred people can jump onto the same investment, but only a few of them will end up making money for reasons I’m sure you can figure out yourself.

Which Technique Is Good For Investment Decisions?

All techniques, when applied correctly, can be used to assess whether an investment decision will go well. My preference is usually to use Zi Wei Dou Shu (紫微斗数) and Qi Men Dun Jia (奇门遁甲) as the signs are often clearer and more precise.

Using Zi Wei Dou Shu

Certain sectors in one’s Zi Wei Dou Shu chart can govern investments and the kind of investments can also be differentiated. Suppose you have a really strong 田宅宫 (House, Assets & Real Estate), real estate investments might be a lot more suitable.

If you’re talking about the stock market and equities, looking at sectors like your 财帛宫 (Finance Sector),福德宫 (Karmic Sector) and 父母宫 (Parents Sector) would be more suitable. Most people don’t understand why the Parents Sector is involved, but that’s one sector can represent a multitude of things and even though the name of the sector suggests parents, it can govern other aspects too.

Using Zi Wei Dou Shu to identify which sector or company to go into is a bit harder. Thankfully, we have Qi Men Dun Jia to make up for that.

What I usually do with Zi Wei Dou Shu is to reverse engineer the birth time of CEOs of listed companies and make an assessment of whether the company is worth investing in. If you’ve read my blog post on WeWork and Softbank’s CEO, SoftBank’s stock price should be quite interesting next year. Masa-son is supposed to have a tough year in 2021, so let’s see if Softbank’s stock price goes down next year.

Using Qi Men Dun Jia

I’ve been using Qi Men Dun Jia a lot more personally, partly because it is a lot quicker and more tactical in nature. It’s also because I know from my BaZi and Zi Wei Dou Shu charts that I’m in a phase of my life where my investment decisions will be a lot better, so the tactical nature of Qi Men Dun Jia is a lot more suitable.

Youl’l find a lot of basic information on using Qi Men Dun Jia on the stock market online. When it comes to money and profits, you will never shy away from the following:

  • Gate of Life (生门): Represents profits
  • Yang Earth (戊土): Represents capital

However, bear in mind there is also the following factors which also has its representative symbols:

  • Government policies and restrictions
  • Market-makers because we all know they are the ones who determine the price direction
  • The economy and the general sentiment of the market
  • Other stock investors
  • Most importantly, the symbol (用神) which represents you

All the above has its own symbols in Qi Men Dun Jia (which of course I’m not going to teach for free here) and the sector they end up in relative to the symbol representing you will, of course, mean different things.

For example, any beginner in Qi Men Dun Jia will know 戊 Earth represents capital, but where 戊 ends up exactly matters a lot. In Qi Men Dun Jia there is something we call 三害 (literally translated as Three Harms),which is referring to 入墓 (entering the Tomb position), 刑击 (being harmed), and 空亡 (Void Emptiness). Where 戊 Earth ends up basically represents what is going to happen to your capital but bear in mind this is just one of the many layers of the analysis.

The Stem combinations 戊 appears with also matter a lot. For example, if you see 戊 (Yang Earth) + 庚 (Yang Metal),it means 值符飞宫。 It represents a huge movement of capital, but it may not necessarily mean capital loss. 戊 + 庚 is always been considered an inauspicious Stem combination, so most hobbyists associate 戊 + 庚 with wealth loss which is not necessarily true.

Then comes the part where you have to deduce the time period where the event actually manifests and your get returns on your investment.

There is a lot more to using Qi Men Dun Jia for wealth and investments than just looking at 生门 and 戊 Earth on a surface level. If Chinese metaphysics is a study of physical manifestations, then everything to do with a particular subject will have a symbol representing it.

For example, if you are in a position where you are choosing between a group of companies or certain industries, it can be broken down as such:

  • Alcohol companies can be represented by the Gate Of Healing (休门)
  • Real estate companies can be represented by the Gate of Life (生门)
  • Pharmaceutical companies can be represented by Yin Wood (乙木)

Qi Men Dun Jia basically makes things clear very quickly and it’s much easier to decipher than a Zi Wei Dou Shu chart in my opinion. Most people I know dabbling with Chinese metaphysics spend more time on Qi Men Dun Jia.

I’ve not tried using Qi Men Dun Jia for real estate investments yet as it’s not my cup of tea and it doesn’t make sense to me in this stage of my life, but it will be an interesting topic to explore in future.

Some Interesting Thought Experiments

Say for example a Qi Men Dun Jia chart was generated for a client born during a Yang Fire (丙) year and it clearly states that this investment decision will go well. Does that mean any other person can ride on this and also make money? From what I’ve experienced so far, it often does not. I’ll explain.

As I’ve mentioned, I do use what I know to guide my investment decisions. I would, of course, share some of my insights with my close friends and clients and tell them to consider some of the investments I’m looking at. More often than not, they either don’t take action on it, or they are waiting for a particular investment to drop to a certain price before they put in their money. Perhaps this is the reason why the Qi Men Dun Jia chart states the investment will only benefit someone born in a Yang Fire year and not other years.

The above is a Qi Men Dun Jia chart I generated for myself when I made an investment decision. The investment clearly benefits me and the interesting thing here is that 戊 Earth appears in the same sector as 伤门 which represents the exact industry I invested in.

For the students of Qi Men Dun Jia, here’s a quick quiz:

  • I am born during a 丙 year so the top-middle sector of 离 is where I’m seated at.
  • Now, most people would think that because 白虎 (White Tiger), 杜门 (Gate of Limit), and 天柱 (Tian Zhu or literally translated as ‘Sky Column’) are there, it’s going to be unfavourable for me. But that’s not the case.
  • Although 天柱 is regarded as a negative star in Qi Men Dun Jia, in this case, it is extremely favourable for me.
  • I was initially concerned about the 丙 + 癸 Stem combination as it is 悖师悖师 which means people sabotaging in the dark, but I figured it was due to the short-sellers who were banking on the stock crashing.

I did have my doubts about the company and at that point in time, it was a huge risk which is probably why 杜门 appeared, but time has proven that this investment was in no way unfavourable. This company has the backing of the government, had a huge cash injection and received several stock analyst upgrades from bulge bracket banks.

No matter how much I shared about this company with my friends, none of them took action on it. I also took a look at the CEO’s birthday and he’s not even in his best phase yet.

Make a guess which industry I invested in.

Please don’t ever approach Chinese metaphysics motivated by greed. I can assure you if you approach it this way, you will lose money even if you go to a practitioner who can help you and I’m quite sure the Qi Men Dun Jia chart will also reveal a negative outcome.

Knowing where, how, and the right time to invest is hard work in itself. You have to be really curious about the world, read, and be patient. Furthermore, unless you are some sloth who is still living off your wealthy parents (and I can’t begin to tell you how many of such people I’ve met), you need to get that capital first and that requires a lot of hard work too.

At the end of the day, get this, I don’t want anyone to get greedy. You will pay in ways you cannot imagine. I’ve learned this lesson the tough way myself. I do hope I can help people get a little more comfortable and put their hard-earned money to good use. As I’ve always said, please approach everything with the right mindset and in a balanced manner.

If you approach it with greed, then pray that Heavens feel you deserve wealth, because as much as most of us hate to believe this, Heavens still decide certain things.

– Sean

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Written by Sean Chan

Sean Chan is Asia's leading Chinese metaphysics consultant specializing in BaZi, Zi Wei Dou Shu, Qi Men Dun Jia, and Feng Shui. A thought-leader in the field, Sean's been featured on Channel NewsAsia, The New York Times Style Magazine and other local media. He blogs regularly about various topics surrounding Chinese metaphysics and aims to educate the public about the field.

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  1. Daniel

    SIA?

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    • Sean Chan

      Nah, I’m not a fan of Singapore stocks.

      Reply

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